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::::: I can see now that the example styles need to stay in Common.css so as not to complicate and create problems with the examples and the learning. I'm sorry, Lens, other styles used in the manual can be in template styles, that's fine, but making all into template styles is not more important than the needs of people learning to use the extension (and not complicating examples unnecessarily for them as stated and explained numerous times above). I understand where you're coming from, though and in other situations I'd agree with you, this situation requires a different approach due to the subject matter and the needs of the resource. It goes against instructional/learning best practice to obfuscate examples in any way, this would do that (and did do that). Not being able to edit example styles will not be unexpected to users given all three DPL manuals had the styles in Common.css, the [https://followthescore.org/dpldemo/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css full original manual], the [https://help.fandom.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css gamepedia/fandom manual], and the [https://de.wiki-aventurica.de/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css German Manual Hilfe:DynamicPageList). It is more disruptive to have examples and content that can't be easily understood, than it is to have a handful of styles locked down (I'd find it far more disruptive if the manual styles '''were''' changed randomly when visiting the manual, and if the examples were complicated by extra stuff--which they were on the fandom site and again, is the stated solid reasoning for not doing that here).
::::: I need to be frank here, I'm finding the insistence to change everything I've been doing, as I've been doing it, to be very disruptive; as well as essentially forcing me to explain myself at every step, hindering my efforts and ability to finish the project I proposed, and that I told CA I would get established for him (and that he accepted as such). Especially after asking for patience, time, and understanding to get things solid, giving my unique neurological challenges (I am repeatedly not being afforded these accommodations, despite explaining my need for them and the nature of my challenges--that's not okay). The changes proposed have not been well-thought-out as to understand what it is I'm doing and why
::::: And yes, some examples are in tables, you make a good point that these must be separated out (I will do that and have already been doing that for some, but again I need to be given time to actually finish doing that). Also, I'd be a no-vote, again (already explained why), for enabling VE and structured discussions on talk pages because it is common for people to ask questions involving the use of DPL3 in talk pages, and to have those questions answered in-kind, with working examples '''[https://followthescore.org/dpldemo/index.php?title=DPL_talk:Manual_-_DPL_parameters:_Controlling_output_format as can be clearly observed here]'''. Such also requires working in source, this too was part of the plan and my decision for disabling VE.[[User:FrozenPlum|FrozenPlum]] ([[User talk:FrozenPlum|talk]]) 21:44, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
@[[User:Lens0021]] I can see your point - thanks for the link and explanation. Makes sense to do this for some parts of the wiki for sure. Yet I also see that you are trying to force a nice style (or nice way of applying and editing styles) to a half full wiki.<br>I was taught by years of programming that first comes the content and ''then'' the "making it nice".<br>When I go to a help page I don't care about what it looks like - important for me is readability and that I can understand it. (and maybe that it doesn't burn my eyes out). FrozenPlum sounds like she knows what she's doing and - even more important - '''why''', so I'm confident that it will be readable after she's done with it. And I don't expect much more than this from a help-page-wiki, which I hope this will be in the end. Let's give her the time she needs to finish it, shall we? --[[User:Soukupmi|Soukupmi]] ([[User talk:Soukupmi|talk]]) 22:10, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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