DynamicPageList3 Manual talk:Feedback: Difference between revisions

 

::::: I need to be frank here, I'm finding the insistence to change everything I've been doing, as I've been doing it, to be very disruptive; as well as essentially forcing me to explain myself at every step, hindering my efforts and ability to finish the project I proposed, and that I told CA I would get established for him (and that he accepted as such). Especially after asking for patience, time, and understanding to get things solid, giving my unique neurological challenges (I am repeatedly not being afforded these accommodations, despite explaining my need for them and the nature of my challenges--that's not okay). The changes proposed have not been well-thought-out as to understand what it is I'm doing and why. They have not also been well thought out towards maintenance burden (or the utility of what I've proposed for the audiences it was proposed for being more important than other factors); nor towards instructional best practice, or towards the importance of the learning over the ability for individual users to control things of much lesser importance. Most new wikis are granted a period of understanding, that time is needed to get a coherent direction set and content fleshed out. I am not being granted that (even after stating why I especially need it), and I'm not sure why. I did not make the decisions I made lightly, I am fully trained in EdTech and Instructional design, even though I may have severe limitations based on my neuro-condition (my training is why I offered to CA to do this, he accepted--I'm fulfilling that). I explained my logic and reasoning soundly at every turn. I'd appreciate if I wasn't being pressed to continue to re-explain the same things in different ways after already having done so. If I was given the accommodations I need, I'd continue working here and finish what I proposed, instead I find myself essentially feeling forced to work off-site (to lessen such disruption) and move content back and forth later instead. I should not have to do that, I realized this morning that having to do that was essentially letting myself be "running off" from a project I proposed to CA and stated I'd do (which again, he accepted). Things are being changed in the meantime so that my efforts are nullified... So, I'm not going anywhere, I will continue to work here and fulfill my mandate. Please try to better understand the larger picture, the teaching/learning context, and my motivations and insights as an instructional designer, before making repeated requests, suggestions, or changes that can derail those efforts. I also feel it is inappropriate to seek to impose personal preferences on a wiki over the needs of average users and the goal set for the resource. Also, I'll point out that if you have preferences for styles or javacript that differ from what exists, you can apply these in your user styles or JS.

 

::::: And yes, some examples are in tables, you make a good point that these must be separated out (I will do that and have already been doing that for some, but again I need to be given time to actually finish doing that). Also, I'd be a no-vote, again (already explained why), for enabling VE and structured discussions on talk pages because it is common for people to ask questions involving the use of DPL3 in talk pages, and to have those questions answered in-kind, with working examples '''[https://followthescore.org/dpldemo/index.php?title=DPL_talk:Manual_-_DPL_parameters:_Controlling_output_format as can be clearly observed here]'''. Such also requires working in source, this too was part of the plan and my decision for disabling VE.[[User:FrozenPlum|FrozenPlum]] ([[User talk:FrozenPlum|talk]]) 21:44, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

 

@[[User:Lens0021]] I can see your point - thanks for the link and explanation. Makes sense to do this for some parts of the wiki for sure. Yet I also see that you are trying to force a nice style (or nice way of applying and editing styles) to a half full wiki.<br>I was taught by years of programming that first comes the content and ''then'' the "making it nice".<br>When I go to a help page I don't care about what it looks like - important for me is readability and that I can understand it. (and maybe that it doesn't burn my eyes out). FrozenPlum sounds like she knows what she's doing and - even more important - '''why''', so I'm confident that it will be readable after she's done with it. And I don't expect much more than this from a help-page-wiki, which I hope this will be in the end. Let's give her the time she needs to finish it, shall we? --[[User:Soukupmi|Soukupmi]] ([[User talk:Soukupmi|talk]]) 22:10, 19 April 2022 (UTC)