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::::: And yes, some examples are in tables, you make a good point that these must be separated out (I will do that and have already been doing that for some, but again I need to be given time to actually finish doing that). Also, I'd be a no-vote, again (already explained why), for enabling VE and structured discussions on talk pages because it is common for people to ask questions involving the use of DPL3 in talk pages, and to have those questions answered in-kind, with working examples '''[https://followthescore.org/dpldemo/index.php?title=DPL_talk:Manual_-_DPL_parameters:_Controlling_output_format as can be clearly observed here]'''. Such also requires working in source, this too was part of the plan and my decision for disabling VE.[[User:FrozenPlum|FrozenPlum]] ([[User talk:FrozenPlum|talk]]) 21:44, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
:::::: Thank you for letting me know you are using translate, that helps me to understand better. Yes, I have felt much pressure, that pressure caused me to resign my admin access and work elsewhere to avoid questions and requests (so that I can get work on pages done). When I asked you to be patient, what I meant was: please give me time to get the articles well written and examples working before making more questions, requests, suggestions, or making more changes etc (those things that can wait, they will also be much easier to discuss/do/change '''after''' my initial work is done). Doing wiki things is already very hard for me because I have a brain disease, when anyone adds more problems, questions, changes, complexity or requests to that, it makes editing almost impossible for me. This causes me to forget what I was doing repeatedly, or make it take 10 times longer than it should to get done. I am not well enough (in health) to manage with that added difficulty, it makes me suffer needlessly (stress, distractions, and interruptions all worsen my brain problems). When someone asks you to be patient, they usually expect to be left alone to finish their tasks before being asking to do more, answer more, change more, or do things differently (that is what I expected). I have very little time to feel well each day and edit because of my brain disease, I need to use that small amount of time to fix the pages, I should not need to reply to questions, requests, and if your changes or suggestions make a problem for my plan or edits. I can edit pages, or I can respond to questions/suggestions/changes but I can't do both. Please wait, please give me time to get the articles well written and examples working before making more questions, requests, suggestions, or making more changes that might create problems for that work (those things that can wait, they are easier after my initial work is done). [[User:FrozenPlum|FrozenPlum]] ([[User talk:FrozenPlum|talk]]) 06:23, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
@[[User:Lens0021]] I can see your point - thanks for the link and explanation. Makes sense to do this for some parts of the wiki for sure. Yet I also see that you are trying to force a nice style (or nice way of applying and editing styles) to a half full wiki.<br>I was taught by years of programming that first comes the content and ''then'' the "making it nice".<br>When I go to a help page I don't care about what it looks like - important for me is readability and that I can understand it. (and maybe that it doesn't burn my eyes out). FrozenPlum sounds like she knows what she's doing and - even more important - '''why''', so I'm confident that it will be readable after she's done with it. And I don't expect much more than this from a help-page-wiki, which I hope this will be in the end. Let's give her the time she needs to finish it, shall we? --[[User:Soukupmi|Soukupmi]] ([[User talk:Soukupmi|talk]]) 22:10, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
I believe my last try at the cleanup of styles was requested by FrozenPlum, and I am currently not requesting anything as I know the absence of an active administrator. I am not sure I understand what you say well and I don't know what exactly makes me look aggressive. If I was so, I would explicitly tell you it is always fine to refuse/decline my requests. And if you are OK, please point out what words I used seem to be negative so I can fix it. I've noticed the words I have chosen can be wrong because I am not familiar with English. [[User:Lens0021|Lens0021]] ([[User talk:Lens0021|talk]]) 23:47, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
:Yes, content, writing and examples done first, then styles and formatting later, please. I didn't know there would be a problem using template styles (I don't use it). I thought you'd do it for manual parts like navigation, keys, DPL parameter first (I can't think of any good reason why users should be able to change example styles, honestly, I still disagree there also, that is not a necessity). Also, I apologize, I thought when you got to the examples, if template styles would cause a problem that complicated those examples, that you'd know to stop there and not try to find workarounds for it. I can clearly see now that template styles are impractical and problematic to be used on examples because of how the examples are done--this is exactly the reason I wanted questions, suggestions and changes to wait until I was done fixing all the other content--it actually explains perfectly why this stuff needs to wait; all of the questions/requests and suggestions made will be easy to answer (or have been already answered) when I'm done that work. So, I say it again, please give me time to get the articles well written and examples working before making more questions, requests, suggestions, or changes (those things that can wait, they will also be much easier to determine, discuss, do, and change '''''after''''' my initial work is done, not before). Thanks for your understanding and willingness to wait until that's done, it is much appreciated. [[User:FrozenPlum|FrozenPlum]] ([[User talk:FrozenPlum|talk]]) 06:23, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
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